, that killed so many americans in afghanistan we've ever found evidence of in iraq, sorry, the only one we ever found evidence of in afghanistan was an inert one that we believe was left for us to find as a reminder, say, you know, we're only using one hand and only three fingers on that hand. they're not doing that to say because we're fundamentally nice people and we don't want to hurt anybody. i think it is a signal that they're, you know -- there, you know, still is something, perhaps, to talk about. and i would like to see us explore that if we can. now, i've got to tell you, you know, i have one great quality that i've always brought to the foreign service which is my inherent expend about, you know -- expend about, you know? ship him out. if it works, great, if it doesn't, you know, we didn't lose much. [laughter] so i mean an authority to maintain the iranians. i had it, obviously, going back to '01 through '03. had it again the whole time i was in iraq, did so and retained it in afghanistan. couldn't find any afghan -- or any iranian ready to take me up on it. you know, maybe it was be